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    Whazit from CW battlefield?

    Two items: first is a cast round brass items, the metal is quite thick. It is threaded. I thought top to CS fuse but see no holes in the top. About 1.25" wide, I didn't measure it.

    Second, is this a closer for a handbag or such? It is about 1/2" in length.

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    Opening of second one has shape of key hole?
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    That bottom one is probably suspender or garter clip...
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    The second one may be a carpetbag closure. I have found them mounted on a thin iron strip which is what the fabric is sewn over.
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    It seems to me that those little clips were off a Corset or Bustier similar to these.
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    I agree. Here抯 another supporting example:
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    Well, the clippy thingie is solved, thanks. I have found a few on CW sites before. Now for the brass!
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    It sure is an Industrial strength looking guarder strap attachment.
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    Since Mud Hut and nhbenz have already correctly identified the bustier/corset closure clip, I'll tackle the "brass ring."

    It does resemble a sawed-off section of a threaded civil war artillery fuzeplug. But to be certain, I'll need you to provide precise measurment of its outside diameter and inside diameter. Also, need a photo showing the other side of it.

    I can't for the life of me figure out the reason for doing it, but more than just a few examples of sawed-into-pieces brass artillery fuzeplugs have turned up at civil war sites. Having seen quite a noteworthy number of examples, I have no doubt that somebody was doing it during the war. I just can't figure out why. The only logical answer that comes to me is, the cut-to-pieces fuzeplug parts were going to be adapted for some other function. That function is the mystery.

    It'd also help if you have access to a Thread-Gauge. US Hotchkiss and CS timefuze-plug threads are 12 threads per inch. The yankee Schenkl fuze had 10 threads per inch.

    For anybody here who doesn't already know:
    Yankee fuzeplugs were made of typical "yellow brass." Confederate fuzeplugs tended to be made of a high-copper content alloy of brass... which has an orange-ish/golden or pink color, depending on how high the percentage of copper in the alloy with the zinc. (Typical yellow brass is about 70% copper with 30% zinc... and what is called "red brass" is 90% copper with 10% zinc.)
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    Twenty diggers walked past this just in 2020. I'll get measurements after the obligatory happy nap! It's been a way too busy morning.

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    If this was dug from a civil war battlefield and if it is in fact a garter belt clip then I’d have to assume it was lost by a northern soldier;-)

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    There was a home there that burned during the battle. The brass thingie is 1 1/8" in diameter and the hole is 9/16". I scratched the metal on the inside, which had some, well, let's say its not a perfect casting and the color is dark pink/reddish. Not true yellow brass.
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    Smokeythecat wrote:
    > The brass thingie is 1 1/8" in diameter and the hole is 9/16". I scratched the metal on the inside, which had some, well, let's say its not a perfect casting and the color is dark pink/reddish. Not true yellow brass.


    Thanks for the measurements. The hole's diameter matches the diameter of the "top" of the (tapering smaller as it goes deeper) hole in a typical civil war paper timefuze adapter-plug. The object's outer diameter matches a Parrott fuzehole and also a British-made Whitworth fuzehole. Being made of "copperbrass" (high copper content brass) indicates a Confederate-made fuzeplug. Most of the similar-looking Civilian objects would be made of the usual "yellow brass" -- because that alloy is cheaper than high-copper-content brass.

    Now I need to see a photo of the other side of the object... because it looks like the hole has a "shelf" encircling it. If so, that would exclude the object from being a civil war fuzeplug. The "shelf" could be an optical illusion in the photo you posted, but I want to be certain.

    Also... is there any threading on the inside of the hole?
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